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Author Topic: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?  (Read 285 times)

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Second Meziere bendix just shot craps. Broke another tooth. Two weeks from LS and the ring gear got chewed up this time. Damn thing is welded to the Fortin converter. Needs sent to BFE to be repaired SFAIK. Gonna be tight to get it back together before LS. Really ,really need to find the issue but damned if I can see anything that would be the cause. Gonna call Fortin tomorrow to see if they can shed any light on this.SOB!
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2017, 05:26:29 AM »
Well that suck's What dose it do? I mean when it takes a crap, is it a clearance thing or a electrical thing?  And the reason it always happens at the last minute is because it can.
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2017, 06:02:02 AM »
Apparently a partial engagement thing occasionally that breaks an end off a tooth on the bendix. Wear pattern on bendix shows a full engagement and good alignment wear pattern but both bendixes have failed the exact same way.I've checked alignment and clearances. Tilton Meziere starter and Fortin converter . Ring gear is welded to the torque converter.
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2017, 07:02:31 AM »
too brittle a material or is the motor more load than the starter was made to turn?
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2017, 07:02:57 AM »
that does suck and no fun what so ever
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2017, 07:11:58 AM »
I wonder if an intermittent elec gremlin, not allow enough amps?  Guessing that's starter Fortin rec's?  Whats the comp on that motor, may need to borrow dual battery setup idea from ya Duramax. LOL
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2017, 07:41:22 AM »
too brittle a material or is the motor more load than the starter was made to turn?
I don't know at this point. I'm sure the starter is not the cause and have my doubts about the ring gear being at fault. I'm wondering if there is a mismatch of tooth profiles but when first installed it cranked the engine over and sounded very good/normal just like first starter so I'm doubting that. Seems like everything is bolted up correctly and no misalignment.  I'm thinking there is a tooth mesh clearance issue actually but there is no real way to alter that. Gotta pull the thing out to do much more investigating. The fooking Meziere bendix is around $300 a pop and the pita to remove tranny to keep having this issue.
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2017, 07:47:47 AM »
I wonder if an intermittent elec gremlin, not allow enough amps?  Guessing that's starter Fortin rec's?  Whats the comp on that motor, may need to borrow dual battery setup idea from ya Duramax. LOL
Hmmmm,I don't think so but a good point. It's the only starter made that fits. None other to be used. Already have dual batteries.  ;D Selectable,battery one,battery two or both at same time. The starter has no problem cranking it over on one battery though. 14.5:1 compression on corn.
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2017, 12:40:28 PM »
Growing up a buddy of mine had a step side Chevy Luv with a modified Buick V6 in it.  Coolest little truck ever.  That thing was fast for its time. 

Trouble was it broke so often, and was unreliable as hell.  His dad was wicked good with boats, cars, diesel trucks, you name it.   Never could sort the damn thing. 

We started calling it the "space shuttle."  Cause when when it worked it was bitchen.  But, well, the rest of the time..... 



You want I should mail you the die cut stickers for the car's new name?  Three piece set or just the rear? 
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2017, 12:58:41 PM »
 ;D ;D LMAO LMAO
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2017, 01:05:18 PM »
I know it sucks, but honestly I think you get more enjoyment from tinkering on them then driving them?
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2017, 01:11:07 PM »
This isn't tinkering. It's just plain aggravating....................
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2017, 01:16:47 PM »
Cant replace just the Bendix I suppose?  That be too easy.  Best order 2 starters, having a spare best way for not to happen again.
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2017, 01:17:01 PM »
Hmmmm,I don't think so but a good point. It's the only starter made that fits. None other to be used. Already have dual batteries.  ;D Selectable,battery one,battery two or both at same time. The starter has no problem cranking it over on one battery though. 14.5:1 compression on corn.

this is what i was referring to when i said is the starter up to the task! thats a lot and maybe meant to have a slightly larger flywheel and or a starter made a little stronger? do they sell a bendix made out of 300m as well as a flywheel?  ;D ;D
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Re: Wellllllll,fook me. Why Does It ALWAYS Happen at the Last Minute?
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2017, 02:37:43 PM »
Just add some fuel in the cranking area, maybe pull some timing.. Problem solved!
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