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Future powerplant option..
« on: September 30, 2014, 10:03:11 PM »
Kawi throwing out yet another mean ass uppercut to the jawbone of the competition.
Beautiful work of art IMO   :o
Cant wait to see the stats on this motor, should build boost very quick, possibly a little torque monster down low!





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Re: Future powerplant option..
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 06:00:18 AM »
Maybe,maybe not. Is it built stout enough to take additional power adder mods easily without a lot of up grades OR is it an engine already "on the edge" of it's capabilities.
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Re: Future powerplant option..
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 06:05:22 AM »
The H2R (race model) is rated at 300hp from factory

The H2 street model is rated at 235hp.

But the $55k and $35k price tag I saw reported will slow sales, but 50% of them should show up on crashed toys auction.
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Re: Future powerplant option..
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 06:09:28 AM »
Yep but at what $$$$?    $6K or more??
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Re: Future powerplant option..
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 08:49:55 AM »
Yep but at what $$$$?    $6K or more??

^^^^This^^^^

And back to reality, until they have several yrs and plenty of ###'s under their belt, the price and the aftermarket support will be outta range.  And thats why the busa is so damn popular.

But I still like the lime green.

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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 09:44:47 AM »
Yup,the busa is the SBC of the motorcycle world.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 09:46:28 AM »
Isn't that a centrifugal sc? If so it is basically a mechanically driven turbo.
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Re: Future powerplant option..
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 12:51:23 PM »
Isn't that a centrifugal sc? If so it is basically a mechanically driven turbo.

Thats my understanding from the article i read yest.
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 05:45:53 PM »
Hope they have that blower figured out better than Polaris. The ones they run on the PWC's are complete piles.
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Re: Future powerplant option..
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 08:59:08 PM »
Interesting tidbits from Sport Rider Magazine..

" Kawasaki is claiming a power output in the realm of 300 hp, the highest power claim of any production motorcycle to date. And this comes from a 998cc inline-four engine.
In order to achieve that prodigious power output, Kawasaki turned to supercharging, a form of forced induction that hasn’t been applied to production motorcycles yet. Kawasaki Heavy Industries’ vast industrial complex includes an aerospace division that is one of the world’s foremost designers and developers of turbine technology, with most of the jet engines in use today using parts made by KHI. This experience with turbine design surely played a part in using a centrifugal supercharger, rather than the more common scroll (aka Roots type) or twin-screw-type designs.

The biggest advantage to the centrifugal supercharger is that it generates less heat than the other designs. Compressing air causes it to heat up, but instead of compressing the air in a fixed manner like the other positive-displacement designs (the term positive displacement describes the fact that those superchargers only compress a fixed amount of intake charge with each revolution), the centrifugal supercharger “naturally” generates its pressure by accelerating and then slowing the airflow via the compressor's internal design.

Because it generates less heat in the intake charge, there is less need to cool that intake charge before it enters the combustion chamber, avoiding a bulky assembly in the motorcycle’s intake system where space is at a premium. The Ninja H2R’s supercharger was “designed specifically for this application and completely in-house” according to Kawasaki.

Also notable is that the supercharger appears to be driven directly off internal gears within the engine. Patent applications from Kawasaki revealed a design using a two-speed gearbox for a supercharger, which allows the unit to spin at high speed at lower rpm for better torque and then switch to a lower speed at higher engine rpm for better efficiency and a flatter torque curve."

Blah blah blah.. just let me ride it already!  ;D
..oh wait, let me sell the house first.
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Re: Future powerplant option..
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2014, 01:46:55 PM »
the body lines remind me of something off the movie transformers lol i do like it though
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Re: Future powerplant option..
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2014, 04:57:49 PM »
It's a bit ugly IMO.
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Re: Future powerplant option..
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2014, 07:10:57 PM »
This one's ugly, but the 14 is BUTT ASS UGLY (imho)
So they're stepping it up a bit lol
But still a work of art..
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2014, 07:16:49 PM »
That swing arm set-up is what grabs me, always like that free-floater look. Cool to see how far they are advancing on suspension in the last few years on the dirt and the street.
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Re: Future powerplant option..
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2014, 10:19:15 PM »
I know I'm getting in the conversation a little late, but I thought I would throw out a fun fact from the old days. In the 70s and 80s I spent 5 years with Suzuki and owned a Yamaha dealership for 11 years. In 1979 I spent 10 days with Yamaha in Japan, back then Honda had their cars and motorcycles, Yamaha had the bikes but their big income was music equipment. Suzuki was was always ahead of their time with rotary engines, pressure controls. Anyway. Honda and Yamaha were always trying to outdo each other in a horse power race. They wanted to have the first 100 HP engines the 120 HP, and the time the US had restrictions on speed. Everything had to be geared at no more than 125 MPH coming into the US. That speed restriction was lifted in 79 or 80. I remember Kawasaki would wait for the other two offer up there speed demons each year and Kawasaki would come right behind them with a bike that was 5 or 10 more horse and 10 MPH faster. We were always ticked about it. While in Japan I had to ask why that kept happening. The answer pretty much said it all. Kawasaki Heavy industries, made their big money then in big ships, oil tankers and freighters. I even road a couple of Kawasaki elevators while I was in Japan. I was told that Kawasaki Motorcycles consist of 1/2 of 1 percent of gross sales and they did it for fun, Yamaha at least thought they might never be able to stay at the front of the pack. They said they would never stop trying. Just a little trivia from the old days.  8)
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